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| ==== Rejection of claims ==== | ==== Rejection of claims ==== | ||
| + | The use of inverted commas in statements from officials indicates scepticism or outright rejection of these explanations. No rationale for this scepticism is provided. | ||
| - | In response to a list of questions for this article, the Chinese Consulate in New York said that "the basic principle of respecting and protecting human rights in accordance with China' | + | * In response to a list of questions for this article, the Chinese Consulate in New York said that "the basic principle of respecting and protecting human rights in accordance with China' |
| + | * "The centers are run as boarding facilities ((If this is the case, the calculations made by Killing et al regarding floor area and the possible number of internees are invalidated)) and trainees can go home and ask for leave to tend to personal business. Trainees' | ||
| + | * The government has said that “students” in the camps receive vocational training, learn the Chinese language, and become “deradicalized.” Former detainees say this means they were brainwashed with Communist Party propaganda and forced to labor for free in factories. | ||
| + | * State media reports have emphasized the classroom education that takes place in the camps, claiming that detainees are actually benefiting from their time there ((Given that education achievements for ethnic groups lags the rest of China and that cultural pressure is exerted on girls to become mothers and wives, this would directly address the issue)). | ||
| - | "The centers are run as boarding facilities and trainees can go home and ask for leave to tend to personal business. Trainees' | ||
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| - | China' | ||
| ==== Testimony ==== | ==== Testimony ==== | ||
| === Testimony 1 - Nursaule === | === Testimony 1 - Nursaule === | ||
| == Claims == | == Claims == | ||
| * police interrogated her for hours | * police interrogated her for hours | ||
| - | * a full medical check-up before being taken to the camps | + | * a full medical check-up before being taken to the camps ((This would be a positive move if they were being detained)) |
| * samples of their blood and urine were collected | * samples of their blood and urine were collected | ||
| * answering questions on foreign travel, personal beliefs, and religious practices. ((Bali bombings occurred October 12, 2002. Maximum activity from Jemaah Islamiyah. Nervousness about those visiting the area would be warranted. In August 2003, Riduan Isamuddin (also known as Hambali), an important coordinator of Jemaah Islamiyah and Al Qaeda activities, was arrested by Thai forces, reportedly acting on a tip from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. On September 3, 2003, an Indonesian court convicted Abu Bakar Baasyir of plotting to overthrow the Indonesian government but dropped more serious charges, including accusations that he is the leader of Jemaah Islamiyah. Baasyir was sentenced to four years in jail. Prosecutors had asked for a 15-year sentence. Baasyir has said he will appeal the sentence.)) | * answering questions on foreign travel, personal beliefs, and religious practices. ((Bali bombings occurred October 12, 2002. Maximum activity from Jemaah Islamiyah. Nervousness about those visiting the area would be warranted. In August 2003, Riduan Isamuddin (also known as Hambali), an important coordinator of Jemaah Islamiyah and Al Qaeda activities, was arrested by Thai forces, reportedly acting on a tip from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. On September 3, 2003, an Indonesian court convicted Abu Bakar Baasyir of plotting to overthrow the Indonesian government but dropped more serious charges, including accusations that he is the leader of Jemaah Islamiyah. Baasyir was sentenced to four years in jail. Prosecutors had asked for a 15-year sentence. Baasyir has said he will appeal the sentence.)) | ||
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| * brought to separate room to put on camp uniforms | * brought to separate room to put on camp uniforms | ||
| * walking through a passageway covered with netting and flanked by armed guards and their dogs | * walking through a passageway covered with netting and flanked by armed guards and their dogs | ||
| - | * “I recognized those dogs,” said one former detainee who declined to share his name. He used to watch TV documentaries about World War II, he said. “They looked like the ones the Germans had.” ((Acknowling | + | * “I recognized those dogs,” said one former detainee who declined to share his name. He used to watch TV documentaries about World War II, he said. “They looked like the ones the Germans had.” ((Acknowledging |
| - | * “lined up, took off our clothes to put on blue uniforms | + | * lined up, took off our clothes to put on blue uniforms |
| * men and women together in the same room | * men and women together in the same room | ||
| * treated us like livestock | * treated us like livestock | ||
| * take off my clothes in front of others | * take off my clothes in front of others | ||
| * divided into three categories, differentiated by uniform colors ((Contradicts earlier statements regarding blue uniforms. Supposed photos of camp ' | * divided into three categories, differentiated by uniform colors ((Contradicts earlier statements regarding blue uniforms. Supposed photos of camp ' | ||
| - | * blue, the majority of the people were considered the least threatening - accused of minor transgressions , like downloading banned apps to their phones or having traveled abroad ((subjective | + | * blue, the majority of the people were considered the least threatening - accused of minor transgressions , like downloading banned apps to their phones or having traveled abroad ((Subjective |
| * Imams, religious people, and others considered subversive to the state were placed in the strictest group — and were usually shackled even inside the camp. | * Imams, religious people, and others considered subversive to the state were placed in the strictest group — and were usually shackled even inside the camp. | ||
| * There was also a mid-level group. ((Recollection of categories indicates awareness of possible crimes that they may have committed)) | * There was also a mid-level group. ((Recollection of categories indicates awareness of possible crimes that they may have committed)) | ||
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| * the police officers take phone ((Consistent with intelligence gathering)) | * the police officers take phone ((Consistent with intelligence gathering)) | ||
| * The blue-clad detainees had no interaction with people in the more “dangerous” groups, who were often housed in different sections or floors of buildings, or stayed in separate buildings altogether. But they could sometimes see them through the window, being marched outside the building, often with their hands cuffed. In Chinese, the groups were referred to as “ordinary regulation, | * The blue-clad detainees had no interaction with people in the more “dangerous” groups, who were often housed in different sections or floors of buildings, or stayed in separate buildings altogether. But they could sometimes see them through the window, being marched outside the building, often with their hands cuffed. In Chinese, the groups were referred to as “ordinary regulation, | ||
| - | * For several women detainees, a deeply traumatic humiliation was having their long hair cut to chin length. | + | * having their long hair cut to chin length |
| - | * Women were also barred from wearing traditional head coverings, as they are in all of Xinjiang. | + | * women were also barred from wearing traditional head coverings, as they are in all of Xinjiang. |
| - | * Cutting | + | * cutting |
| - | * No privacy | + | * no privacy |
| - | * Constant | + | * constant |
| - | * Periodically | + | * periodically |
| - | * Camp officials observe detainees’ behavior during the day using cameras, and communicate with detainees over intercom. | + | * Camp officials observe detainees’ behavior during the day using cameras, and communicate with detainees over intercom |
| * Camps were made up of multiple buildings, including dorms, canteens, shower facilities, administrative buildings, and, in some cases, a building where visitors were hosted. ((Confirming that the buildings had other facilities beside ' | * Camps were made up of multiple buildings, including dorms, canteens, shower facilities, administrative buildings, and, in some cases, a building where visitors were hosted. ((Confirming that the buildings had other facilities beside ' | ||
| * desperately crowded facilities | * desperately crowded facilities | ||
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| * each detainee was given a small plastic stool | * each detainee was given a small plastic stool | ||
| * forced to study Chinese textbooks | * forced to study Chinese textbooks | ||
| - | * if they moved their hands from their knees or slouched, they’d be yelled at through the intercom. | + | * if they moved their hands from their knees or slouched, they’d be yelled at through the intercom |
| * shared bathroom, showers infrequent, always cold | * shared bathroom, showers infrequent, always cold | ||
| * small clinics within the camps | * small clinics within the camps | ||
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| * older men and women could not handle standing for many hours and struggled to keep watch | * older men and women could not handle standing for many hours and struggled to keep watch | ||
| * so crowded and tense that arguments sometimes broke out among detainees — but these were punished severely | * so crowded and tense that arguments sometimes broke out among detainees — but these were punished severely | ||
| - | * beating ((reporting on another prisoner)) | + | * beating ((Testimony about another prisoner)) |
| * put a hood over my head | * put a hood over my head | ||
| - | * Nursaule was never beaten | + | * Nursaule was never beaten |
| * put a sack over her head | * put a sack over her head | ||
| * took her to the solitary room | * took her to the solitary room | ||
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| * no window | * no window | ||
| + | == Analysis == | ||
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